Analyzing Lenormand Combo: Cross + Tree + Mice

Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 05:27 pm

Deck: Piatnik - Jeu du Destin - Lenormand

I was thinking about all the various readings and card musings that I had been wanting to post on this blog (plus a billion other to-do things) but haven’t been able to yet due to being buried alive by work and also feeling ill. I was sick through the weekend and even though I’m better now, I’m still really tired. I also have a few health issues that I’m supposed to take care of… so all in all, I wasn’t all that surprised with my daily Lenormand draw today, even though it sure would’ve been nice to see more positive looking cards!

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The cards are 36 Cross + 5 Tree + 23 Mice (+ 4 House)

Note: House was drawn from the bottom of the deck. I call it the Shadow or Hidden card, which is something I tend to mostly do with my Tarot readings, but I’ve started to try it sometimes with the Lenormand to see if it applies well.

Even though this is just a daily draw, I wanted to do a lengthy study of these cards, as there are 3 main themes I thought would be beneficial to explore in depth- mostly related to the various meanings that Tree could carry. A VERY Long post following…

Take 01: Health

Since Tree is the general card for health, having it trapped between Cross and Mice doesn’t look so good. I seem to be getting a lot of these type of draws across different decks lately, where a key area of my life appears to be trapped between 2 challenging cards. The previous post with Coffin + Heart + Mountain comes to mind as well.

Cross+Tree suggests health issues, sickness, and body pain (possibly backaches since Cross represents the lower back). There’s also an implication of serious illness. Sylvie mentions incurable disease while Treppner’s is fateful disease. I think it’s pretty universally agreed upon, regardless of system, that this isn’t what you’d call a good combo for health matters.

Tree+Mice seems to warn of health deteriorating, poor immune system, and a well-being that’s not thriving. Doesn’t the Mice look like it’s nibbling away at the Tree? This resulting combo could also be talking about exhaustion or maybe stress, perhaps as a result of the implied health issues. Conversely, I’ve seen it mentioned in some systems too that Mice coming after Tree actually means an improvement rather than the worsening of condition. Treppner also says Mice is capable of canceling out the bad stuff, and it could mean that illness is going to get better.

Exploring further, Mice in health could indicate viruses, infections, parasitic problems, or vitamin deficiency. Sylvie attributes it to the nervous system, though other systems have mentioned the digestive system relating to stomach and bowels.

Taking all that into account, this draw could be saying that there will be some problems with my health, possibly serious ones that will need my attention. It could be caused by stress or not taking good care of my body, resulting in fatigue and bad immune system… which could then cause the problems to either occur or get worse.

House as the shadow card could represent the body as a whole, and this may be a sign that the aforementioned issues could affect my overall body’s health. Or if I look at it another way, House could be saying that these cards apply to the entire household and not just me… which could very well be true too because both my sister and my mom are currently plagued by various physical/health problems of their own (a cold, a serious knee sprain, diarrhea and intestinal issue, thyroid side effects, etc.) We’re just not a healthy bunch at the moment!

Possible Relation: I could see all this applying, since I have been feeling under the weather for the past 2 weeks and I also do feel very tired regardless of how much rest I get. Granted, I haven’t had much rest as a whole lately but it just feels like my body hasn’t been functioning up to par. I’m also aware that I really need to be taking better care of my health as I’ve been putting work and other responsibilities as priority, and it’s become obvious recently that this is starting to take a heavy toll on my body. I also have a fairly serious health issue that I’ve been needing to get further check ups on but have instead been putting it off, though I’ve been getting a bad feeling that it’s gotten much worse. I really hope these cards aren’t referring to that.

As an additional side note, my stomach hasn’t been feeling right since yesterday… but late today, I started having periodic sharp and sudden clenching stomach pains. It’d last for a minute and then go away just as suddenly as it came. I’m not quite sure if this is a symptom of anything bigger, but being that Mice could talk about both viruses and the digestive system, I thought it worth a mention. And of course, as already talked about up top, these cards could be applying to the entire household at the moment since “feeling unwell” seems to be a common denominator these days.

All in all, let’s hope the cards are just being a “daily” and isn’t really talking about anything beyond the current state of feeling under the weather (me or the people in the house). I am, however, also keeping in mind that some systems see the Mice coming after Tree as a sign of recovery… so hopefully it can mean that all these miscellaneous health issues would be improving soon.

Take 02: The House

This one is probably a more unconventional way of looking at these cards. I’m giving the House card a lot more direct weight and influence here, so it spins a different set of possibilities. Being that Tree often represents the state of health, it sometimes refers to strength, stability, or the root and core. Relating to House, it could be talking about the foundation and structure- in short, the health of an actual house. Cross representing the backbone could further reinforce this too.

Taking the cards in this direction, Cross+Tree could represent challenges, worries, and the feeling of being burdened by the health or structure of the House. Tree+Mice in related to the house could then be suggesting structural damage of some sort, as well as general stress regarding the issue. Since Mice can be parasitic, it could even indicate issues like termites and pests such as rodents and bugs.

Possible Relation: I would hate for this to turn out to be the case, but unfortunately, I can also see some correlation with the above meaning, however odd the interpretation may seem. Our place is really old, and last year, we took great pains to get it completely renovated and remodeled- including structural changes, reworking the pipings and electrical wiring, etc. The whole nine yards, really.

The issue here is that the people we had hired to do all this turned out to have done a really horrible job. I would not even be able to begin describing how horrible, but let’s just say we may have been better off before the renovation. There had been so many problems since then that it’d be quite an understatement to say it has caused us a lot of grief, and most of it isn’t even resolved yet. It’s become an ongoing sad joke that our situation is highly reminiscent of the 80s movie, Money Pit. Structure wise, well… my sister and I have this sinking suspicion/fear that our home won’t survive the next earthquake.

Mice has me worried too if it’s talking about parasitic issues, because my mom and I have both seen signs of a possible termite infestation (which is likely caused by some aspects of this “bad renovation job”). We’ve also been seeing A LOT of bugs (including some strange ones we haven’t been able to identify) around the house- something that had never been an issue prior to the renovation. Coupled with everything else that’s wrong with the house, none of us are seeing these bugs as a good sign in the least. So all in all, it’d be worse than terrible if these cards end up referring to the house. Just thinking about it makes me want to run screaming into the night.

Take 03: Life Themes

This last interpretation is a theme I’m least familiar with in my experience with the Lenormand cards (and so it seems least likely as well), but I wanted to explore this avenue for practice anyway- especially since it’s the most difficult one for me to string together.

Tree, according to Sylvie, can also mean spiritual beliefs, karmic connections, the life force, and the universe. I’ve read somewhere that the Tree can symbolize the deeper balance and needs from within as well as general spiritual well-being too. A few other sources have also mentioned that the Tree surrounded by negative cards could indicate laziness, being unmotivated, or the lack of will and perseverance in seeing an idea or duty through.

Taking all that into account, Cross+Tree could then possibly be about the soul or spirit being not at peace. Soul-searching comes to mind for this combo. Perhaps there are deep questions being asked within oneself about their goals, purpose, or beliefs. There may also be difficulties or grief on a deeper level about where one’s roots are, especially with the House thrown in.

In this case, Tree+Mice could be talking about the stress that comes with this, or maybe it’s a loss of some sort that provoked this soul-searching to begin with. Otherwise, this combo could be referring to the aforementioned lack of motivation and will- which I could also see happening when one is going through a period of questioning life themes and deep issues. The House might then be talking about the foundation and one’s place in life, whether spiritually, physically, or even emotionally.

Possible Relation: As dubious as I may be about this last interpretation, I’m also finding it interesting that I could relate here too. For the past few months (and becoming increasingly so lately), I have been pondering on a lot of the issues mentioned above. Not necessarily spiritual beliefs and such, but more along the lines of trying to find a balance within myself on a deep level. I’ve been questioning a lot on where I stand in life, where it’s headed, and what it is that my soul is urging me to do. This last bit on the soul-searching is half strange in itself simply because I’m not what you would categorize as a spiritual person.

There is grief and stress involved too in this process, because I’ve been feeling torn between deciding what I want and need. My brain tells me one thing, my heart tells me another, and I’m beginning to feel that my soul is telling me yet something different too. The end result is a very unbalanced Téa… and if I was honest, it’s definitely been causing some lack of motivation and productivity in some areas of my life.

Finally, the end…

So, the final final verdict? I’m thinking the cards are referring to the health issues as a daily, but I’m finding it interesting that I could highly relate to all 3 interpretations as well. I’ll certainly be keeping those in mind.

Normally, I don’t bother reading this deeply into a daily draw, because it brings about the whole potential danger of one reading too much into a message that might not even be there at all. If these messages start to pop up in my other readings, then I’ll of course be reconsidering. It’s just that when I saw these cards, it was really drawing me in so I decided to dig deep. It’s a good learning practice at the very least. :D

Goodness, what a long post though. I’m gonna bet that no one read and stuck through the entire monstrous analyzing of just 3 to 4 cards. I can’t even believe I typed up that much. :p

Comments: 7

1cat's avatarcat | June 18, 2009 - 07:27 am [GMT+8]

Hi,

Have just discovered your blog through the link on Spiritsongs and very much enjoyed reading your posts…..............and yes, I read this one right through!
Hope its ok to add you to our bloglist.

Cat xx

2Téa's avatar Téa | June 18, 2009 - 04:21 pm [GMT+8]

Hi Cat,

Thanks for visiting my blog! I really enjoy journaling and musing about the cards, so I’m especially glad that someone else found some enjoyment in reading them too, however wordy I may get (someone read through this post…lol!).

Anyhow, of course it’s okay to add my blog! Thank you very much. :) I’m always looking for more card buddies, and I’m glad to see another Lenormand (and Gypsy!) reader- and what a wonderful blog it is too! I’ve added it to my list as well and will be stopping by often.

Tea :)

3Chanah's avatarChanah | June 20, 2009 - 06:12 am [GMT+8]

I would take the health problems seriously with a reading like this - better safe than sorry and all that.

The Cross + Tree can indicate a hereditary or genetic illness - remember that the Tree connects to your physical roots, or ancestry. And Tree + Mice can show organ failure. Now, it doesn’t always mean that, but that particular 3-combo can be a definite pointer to something like diabetes if that runs in your family. Or to any other degenerative illness your family may be prone to, like arthritis.

And with the house renovations from hell? You’ve certainly got more than enough to deal with to spike the stress-o-meter.

I do hope you’ll be feeling better soon, but please - get the health stuff checked. It may be nothing - or it may be a warning of something that could be prevented or nipped in the bud if you take care of it now.

Best -
Chanah

4Téa's avatar Téa | June 20, 2009 - 06:44 pm [GMT+8]

Hi Chanah,

Thanks very much for the additional insight! I completely forgot that Tree connects to the ancestry. I’ll definitely be remembering that now, along with the combos you mentioned. My grandfather had diabetes, my mother has arthritis, and my father and grandmother had cancer… so I’m, unfortunately, not lacking in the genetic or degenerative illnesses department.

The horrible house issues aren’t the only main contributing factor to my stress level at the moment- I’m just not at a very easy place in my life right now, so when these cards came up, I was more than a bit wary.

Thank you very much for the well wishes and the note of caution. I wasn’t quite sure what to make of these cards and didn’t want to risk reading too much into it, but it did give me a bad feeling so I really appreciate your opinion on it. Hopefully, after this week, I’ll be able to find a bit of time to get things checked out and taken care of just to be safe…

By the way, I’m really glad to see that you’ve started posting on your blog again. I’ve buried myself over there countless times in the past few months!

Tea :)

5ximikewen's avatarximikewen | July 30, 2010 - 05:22 pm [GMT+8]

I would take the health problems seriously with a reading like this - better safe than sorry and all that.Anyhow, of course it’s okay to add my blog! Thank you very much.Thank you for sharing, it makes me understand a lot! It is very helpful to me!

6dietary supplements's avatardietary supplements | August 09, 2010 - 04:34 pm [GMT+8]

I think I have some sort of vitamin deficiency. I mostly eat and drink and lot of junk, stuff that’s not good for my body and not a lot of good stuff like water, fruits, veggies, etc. And my body is paying me back for that!!

Anyway, any suggestions on some things I can eat to help put a lot of good vitamins in my body and what medicine/tablet vitamins would you suggest for me

7Melasma's avatarMelasma | August 17, 2010 - 05:25 pm [GMT+8]

Can chronic stress kill you? I have panic disorder. This was caused by stress obviously. I don’t want something bad to happen. I need to change. I’m just wondering if this can make me actually very sick…and really hurt me

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